Debate Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

The appearance of the Enterprise in SNW isn't how it appeared until after the "refit" leading into The Motion Picture.

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Just like in "Star Trek: Discovery" a lot of things look more advanced.

And in the Enterprise series. According to Spock in "Balance Of Terror," ships like NX-01 didn't exist.

@Knixon said:

And in the Enterprise series. According to Spock in "Balance Of Terror," ships like NX-01 didn't exist.


Spock talked about 'primitive space vessels' by their standards in 2266. He didn't mention Captain Archer's NX-01 starship or say that it didn't exist.

I'm glad that the series "Star Trek: Enterprise" didn't show humans and Romulans seeing each other.

Unfortunately I expect that "(S)SNW" will break this continuity.

Spock said that the ships of that time were small - no room for prisoners/captives - primitive, and didn't even have ship-to-ship visual communications. NX-01 broke all 3 of those.

And unless you want to claim that "Startrek" is one word, it would be STSNW.

SPOCK: Referring to the map on your screens, you will note beyond the moving position of our vessel, a line of Earth outpost stations. Constructed on asteroids, they monitor the Neutral Zone established by treaty after the Earth-Romulan conflict a century ago.

[Sickbay]

SPOCK [OC]: As you may recall from your histories, this conflict was fought,

[Engineering]

SPOCK [OC]: By our standards today, with primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels

[Bridge]

SPOCK: Which allowed no quarter, no captives. Nor was there even ship-to-ship visual communication. Therefore, no human, Romulan, or ally has ever seen the other. Earth believes the Romulans to be warlike, cruel, treacherous, and only the Romulans know what they think of Earth. The treaty, set by sub-space radio, established this Neutral Zone, entry into which by either side, would constitute an act of war. The treaty has been unbroken since that time. Captain.

@Knixon said:

And unless you want to claim that "Startrek" is one word, it would be STSNW.


My mistake. In my notes I usually write (S)SNW, with 'S' between parenthesis. Sometimes I forget. I corrected it.

In fact I should also always add 'Nu' to some of the retconned characters in the series after 2005, which I don't. Sometimes when I do, it is to emphasize the difference with the original.

@wonder2wonder said:

@Knixon said:

And unless you want to claim that "Startrek" is one word, it would be STSNW.


My mistake. In my notes I usually write (S)SNW, with 'S' between parenthesis. Sometimes I forget. I corrected it.

In fact I should also always add 'Nu' to some of the retconned characters in the series after 2005, which I don't. Sometimes when I do, it is to emphasize the difference with the original.

Then it would be (ST)SNW. Or ST:SNW or something.

At least to me, all of Star Trek since at least the Enteprise series - and it was disappointing enough too - is "Nu"Trek. So not sure Nu really needs to be added.

@Knixon said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@Knixon said:

And unless you want to claim that "Startrek" is one word, it would be STSNW.


My mistake. In my notes I usually write (S)SNW, with 'S' between parenthesis. Sometimes I forget. I corrected it.

In fact I should also always add 'Nu' to some of the retconned characters in the series after 2005, which I don't. Sometimes when I do, it is to emphasize the difference with the original.

Then it would be (ST)SNW. Or ST:SNW or something.


Well, for me in the 70s it was only "Star Trek". When the next series arrived, I wrote "Star Trek" as "(S)" and added the "TOS". I know what the 'official' writing is, but decided to keep it that way.

When there is a sequel of "The Big Bang Theory", I will write that as (BB) or just (B) and add whatever the rest of the title is. That's just how the 'algorithm' - I'm not Sheldon wink - in my brain works.



At least to me, all of Star Trek since at least the Enteprise series - and it was disappointing enough too - is "Nu"Trek. So not sure Nu really needs to be added.


I agree that all Star Trek after 2005 is NuTrek. I even refer to it as occurring in the Abrams-Kurtzman Star Trek Universe or for the television series just Kurtzman Star Trek Universe.

Jar Jar Trek is another version. For Jar Jar Abrams.

@wonder2wonder said:

Just like in "Star Trek: Discovery" a lot of things look more advanced.

With SNW being so good, they can quickly cancel that dreadful Disco farce.

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