Interview: Ray Fisher Speaks Out On “Toxic” Set And WarnerMedia Investigation Into Justice League Production
“The erasure of people of color from the 2017 theatrical version of Justice League was neither an accident nor coincidence,” Ray Fisher calmly, but sternly stated.
“For one thing, the cast and crew were told that Zack had handpicked Joss to finish the film for him. I didn’t find out until after the reshoots that that was a complete lie.” Fisher began. “I heard whispers and rumblings of things being off behind the scenes, but nothing concrete until much later. They had us go out to San Diego Comic-Con in 2017 and say Zack picked Joss and that Joss was a great guy. I still have the email with those talking points.”
“Prior to Justice League’s reshoot process, blatantly racist conversations were had and entertained—on multiple occasions—by former and current top level executives at Warner Bros. Pictures,” Fisher stated. “Decision-makers that participated in those racist conversations were Geoff Johns, Jon Berg, and current Warner Bros. Pictures Group chairman Toby Emmerich.” Emmerich, Berg, and Johns did not immediately respond for comment.
“I realized that the notes I ended up getting from Johns during reshoots were just a coded version of the racist things he was saying with behind closed doors with the other execs,” Fisher alleged.
“A lot of what these guys were doing was in an effort to prevent themselves from being fired during AT&T’s merger with Time Warner,” Fisher pointed out to Forbes. “I plan getting much more specific about each of these guys after the investigation is over—this interview is just the abridged version,” Fisher further clarified.
While Fisher was already aware of the alleged whitewashing, he didn’t become aware of these racist conversations until after he started speaking out.
“These conversations were reported to me by people in the room. And I wasn’t made aware until AFTER I had already spoken out about Joss Whedon.”
“None of what I’m sharing in this interview is news to Warner Bros. HR, nor should it be news to WarnerMedia. I reported almost everything to them back in July—including Emmerich’s involvement,” Fisher said. “The fact that I’m having to advocate for myself in this way is equal parts freeing and frustrating.”
Outside of Fisher, multiple actors of color had their roles completely removed or heavily-reduced in Justice League.
The role of Ryan Choi, played by Zheng Kai, was cut. Joe Morton, who played Cyborg’s father Silas, had his role mostly cut and reshot. While Zack Snyder included a diverse cast of characters, many of them had roles significantly altered, or disappeared from the film altogether before it arrived in theaters. Karen Bryson, who played Cyborg’s mother Ellinore, had her role cut as well. Additionally, Kiersey Clemons, who played Iris West, was removed from the film. All of them will appear in 2021’s Zack Snyder’s Justice League. According to representatives for Whedon, these decisions were made prior to his taking control of the project.
A representative for Whedon said; The individual who offered this statement acknowledged that this was just something that he had heard from someone else and accepted as truth, when in fact simple research would prove that it was false. As is standard on almost all films, there were numerous people involved with mixing the final product, including the editor, special effects person, composer, etc. with the senior colorist responsible for the final version’s tone, colors, and mood. This process was further complicated on this project by the fact that Zack shot on film, while Joss shot on digital, which required the team, led by the same senior colorist who has worked on previous films for Zack, to reconcile the two.
“I always suspected that race was a determining factor for the way that things went down, but it wasn’t until this past summer that I was able to prove it,” Fisher said of the changes to minority characters.
“Race was just one of the issues with the reshoot process. There were massive blowups, threats, coercion, taunting, unsafe work conditions, belittling, and gaslighting like you wouldn’t believe,” Fisher commented when asked for details.
“Geoff Johns made a veiled threat to my career during the LA reshoots of Justice League,” Fisher said. “Multiple sources have informed me, that Joss threatened the career of another person associated with the production. Toby was made aware and tried to cover for Whedon rather than deal with the abuse. That situation had to be escalated to Tsujihara to get any results.”
“These things affected many people across various departments. Warner Bros. Pictures has tried to make it seem as if these issues are mine and mine alone,” Fisher said. “I’ve brought them a number of witnesses that have been avoided and in some cases ghosted during the investigation process. Warner Bros. knows full well my claims are credible. They’re just scrambling.”
On September 4th, the Cyborg actor took to Twitter once again to explain how the studio had been handling his dispute thus far. The actor detailed a call between himself and Walter Hamada, president of DC Films. In it, he alleged that Hamada tried to get Fisher to relent on Johns. The tweet sparked Warner Bros. Pictures to put out their first official statement.
In the statement, a studio spokesperson said, “At no time did Mr. Hamada ever ‘throw anyone under the bus,’ as Mr. Fisher has falsely claimed, or render any judgments about the Justice League production, in which Mr. Hamada had no involvement since filming occurred before Mr. Hamada was elevated to his current position.”
The studio went on to say that “Mr. Fisher has declined to speak to the investigator” and that Fisher “failed to provide” specific and credible allegations of misconduct.
Fisher, infuriated by the statement, told Forbes that the statement was a double-edged sword that helped him as much as the studio attempted to discredit him.
“The hit piece that Warner Bros. Pictures put out on me on September 4th, was meant to isolate me, but it ended up having the opposite effect,” Fisher said. “More people ended up reaching out and offering their support.
“Warner Bros. Pictures has been receiving a lot of bad press recently for their mishandling of HR and third-party investigations—unfortunately the Justice League investigation has been no different.”
While Hamada was not present during the production of Justice League, Fisher went into further detail about his disappointment with the DC Films president regarding the investigation process.
“Walter Hamada chose to insert himself into this situation by trying to throw Joss Whedon and Jon Berg under the bus to protect Geoff Johns,” Fisher reiterated. “He has a long-standing work relationship with Johns and an even longer one with Toby [Emmerich] from their time together at New Line.”
“Emmerich made Hamada the president of DC Films and Johns is providing content for Hamada to produce. It stands to reason that he would have a vested interest in trying to protect both of them.”
“You see what Warner Bros. PR tried to do to me after I alluded to Walter Hamada? Now imagine what would’ve happened if I named the chairman of the company instead of Hamada,” Fisher said. “WB would’ve used every bit of PR power they had to try to stomp me out and protect Emmerich.”
Fisher revealed one of the biggest challenges has been getting WarnerMedia to conduct a fair and impartial investigation, something that has taken much of Fisher’s time to achieve.
“My team and I have been informed that the third-party firm that was originally brought on to investigate Justice League has withdrawn from the case,” Fisher began.
“WarnerMedia has since informed me and my team that the old investigator purposely lied to us about the investigation. We’ve asked WarnerMedia to relay this information to the public and to retract Warner Bros.’ September 4th hit piece on me so we can clear the air and get the investigation back on track. They’ve refused to do so…so here we are…”
“The new investigator that WarnerMedia has brought on is the same one that did the final Kevin Tsujihara investigation before he was taken down,” Fisher explained.
“I’ve got a lot of witnesses that are willing to be interviewed, they’re just waiting on my go-ahead that it’s safe to do so,” Fisher said.
Outside of witnesses, Fisher has the backing of The Screen Actors Guild – American Federation of Television and Radio Artists.
“SAG-AFTRA has been a part of just about every conversation we’ve had with WarnerMedia and has been pushing to get them to do the right thing.”
“In a business as notoriously litigious as Hollywood, the fact that I haven’t received so much as a cease and desist letter should tell you something,” Fisher calmly stated. “The people involved know I’m telling the truth. They’re just looking for a way to mitigate blowback for themselves.”
“WarnerMedia knows I don’t have the financial ability to stand up to them in court,” Fisher continued. “Emmerich, Whedon, and the other guys probably do. My guess is that WarnerMedia is looking for the lesser of two lawsuits.”
“The people that have shared their stories with me have put themselves at great risk, both personally and professionally. I will protect them at any cost,” Fisher said. “Hollywood is one of the most retaliatory businesses in the world. One word of you being “difficult” or “uncooperative” could be the end of your career, especially if you’re black.”
Fisher fully realized that there are people out there that don’t believe him. … To them, Fisher had frank words.
“You really have to ask yourself, what’s more plausible—that I would purposely torpedo my career by making statements about powerful figures in Hollywood, that, if untrue, could be easily refuted. OR a handful people in positions of power said and did terrible things in order to maintain that power during a massive corporate merger.”
While Fisher was candid about his frustration with the studio, he was still clear that he’s not at war with the entire studio.
“I’m not in a fight with Warner Bros.” Fisher sighed. “I’m in a fight with a handful of people that are attempting to use Warner Bros. to cover their tracks. All the significant film and tv work I’ve done has been under the WarnerMedia banner. I love what I do and who I’ve been blessed to do it with.”
“Regardless of how I feel about the folks involved, I’m not interested in people being allowed to dog-pile and scapegoat easy targets.”
“My goal is to have these people not be decision makers for the content that influences our world,” Fisher began. “These guys have been in Hollywood a long time. Their problematic behavior didn’t start with the AT&T merger, but I’ll be dammed if it doesn’t end with it.”
“I’m not worried about the consequences. I’m well aware of what’s at stake. If people don’t want to work with me because I’m refusing to tolerate abusive behavior and the coverup culture of old Hollywood, then so be it.” Fisher said.
“If nothing else, I’m going to go out of this business the way I came in; free and of my own volition. Can you dig that?”
Interview: Ray Fisher Speaks Out On “Toxic” Set And WarnerMedia Investigation Into Justice League Production
Fisher has not been the only cast member to make his voice heard. On September 14th, Aquaman star Jason Momoa took a strong stand of support with his fellow JL cast member. Momoa took to Instagram, slamming Warner Bros.
Is RR sure that JM is really supporting him? lol His first post about this was June 29. JM’s support was posted Sept 14 and it was because WB used his name in the fake Frosty news. If RR is really your brother and you know about what happened, why did you wait 2.5 months to show support?
Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ Trailer is Gone From HBO Max’s Social Media Accounts, But It’s Still Debuting in 2021
This week, eagle-eyed Twitter users noticed that the trailer for the upcoming Snyder Cut has been removed from HBO Max’s YouTube, Twitter, and other social media accounts.
Warner Bros.’ license for Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah” has expired, and therefore, they must remove the trailer from their public-facing social media channels.
Is RR sure that JM is really supporting him? lol His first post about this was June 29. JM’s support was posted Sept 14 and it was because WB used his name in the fake Frosty news. If RR is really your brother and you know about what happened, why did you wait 2.5 months to show support?
Maybe fake support is still support. I also think JM supported RR because of the Frosty crap.
Ray Fisher Confirms How Many Cyborg Scenes In Justice League Were Reshoots And It's Ridiculous
It was never a question of “if” the theatrical cut of Justice League underwent reshoots, it was a matter of “how much” of the film had been adjusted.
Now, Ray Fisher dropped a bomb to claim that every single scene that he can think of that involves Cyborg – save for one – was a reshoot.
“Some things were, like, similar with the reshoots as what we did with the original, and so it’s hard to like tell with certain shots of other people for scenes that I wasn’t there for. But what I can tell you from my character, and for what you saw in the theatrical version, that every single scene with the exception of the Gotham City police rooftop scene with Commissioner Gordon and Batman and Flash and all that… every single scene that I’m in was reshot. I reshot almost the entire film with my end. As far as other people’s stuff where I wasn’t there, I can’t really tell you.”
This comes as no real surprise. We’ve known that Ray Fisher’s Cyborg suffered the most extensive changes from Zack Snyder’s intended arc to what eventually ended up in the theatrical cut of Justice League.
Want to hear Ray Fisher’s full interview with Geek House Show
Is RR sure that JM is really supporting him? lol His first post about this was June 29. JM’s support was posted Sept 14 and it was because WB used his name in the fake Frosty news. If RR is really your brother and you know about what happened, why did you wait 2.5 months to show support?
It gets even weirder.
RR’s first post was June 29. Deadline broke the Frosty news July 1st. JM debunked the Frosty news Sept 14. And this part of his post is weird: ”…it's f*cked up that people released a fake Frosty announcement without my permission to try to distract from Ray Fisher speaking up…”
So it’s OK to release fake news with his permission?
It’s also weird that a fake news would have quotes of some of those involve.
Berg said: “From his role as a fearsome count in a land of ice and fire to the oceanic success we all had with Aquaman, it felt only right to realize Jason this time out of snow.”
Said Silverman: “We know Jason’s as a true human being filled with love, compassion and a deep connection to ohana — all of which is the living spirit of Xmas and Frosty.”
Some say that JM was still in talks when Deadline broke the news as a done deal. Apparently, it fell through and that’s why JM debunked it so late.
Henry Cavill’s Mustache Is Nowhere To Be Seen In Justice League BTS Photo
Visual effects technology has advanced so rapidly over the last two decades that virtually anything can be realized on the big screen and rendered completely convincingly, from entire planets located in the deepest reaches of the galaxy to whole cities being levelled in an orgy of massive scale destruction. However, as we discovered in the very first scene of Joss Whedon’s Justice League, one thing that CGI has so far failed to accomplish is the ability to convincingly remove a man’s mustache.
Director of photography Fabian Wagner has now revealed a new BTS image from the film, though, and based entirely on Cavill’s lack of mustache, you can guess during which stage of the shoot it was taken.
Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ Reshoots Will Result in Only a Few Minutes of New Footage
ZS:“I will say that in the end it’s going to probably be about four minutes or five minutes of additional photography for the entire movie. In the four hours that is Justice League, maybe four minutes.”
Ezra Miller is on a closed set in London for Fantastic Beasts 3, reprising his role as Credence Barebone while adhering to COVID-19 safety measures with the cast and crew. And that means he cannot leave the set to join the Justice League cast for additional photography, and Snyder cannot fly to London to join him, either.
ZS:“I had to get a pick-up shot of Ezra when we were doing this little bit. You know, he’s on Fantastic Beasts, and that’s in London, and we weren’t going to travel to London, unfortunately. I would have loved to have done that… So what we did was we picked him up on a Zoom, and the Fantastic Beasts crew, I sent them these drawings. I was like, ‘Ok, this is what he has to do, this is where he is.’”
Zack Snyder Says Jared Leto's Joker Will Have a New Look in JUSTICE LEAGUE
"It is true. I wanted to of course honor what had been created with him because I thought it was really cool; but also in this, I'm not going to tell you what happens in the little scene, but some water has gone under the proverbial bridge between when last we saw Joker and this appearance. So he's made some...he's a road-weary Joker, I guess that's a way of saying it."
Most people think that he’ll appear in a flashback scene involving the death of Robin. One report suggests, “If Zack and David stick with the story of having Joker brutally beat Robin to death then set his body on fire then there’s no doubt in my mind that it happened in Wayne Manor and the fire is what left the house looking like that.”
HBO Max gave Snyder a $70 million budget to realize his full vision of Justice League. Snyder’s cut of the movie will be four hours long and will be split up into four hour-long episodes.
Fantastic Beasts 3 is shooting at Leavesden Studios. I hear they built part of Berlin and Rio de Janeiro. MI7, on the other hand, is still shooting on location. They were in Norway, Rome, Venice. I guess everybody is so afraid of TC that they’d probably keep distance from their own shadows to not get COVID-19. You don't know where your shadow goes to when you can’t see it.
BTW, TW left the studio to shoot at some beautiful locations and suddenly a few crew members got COVID-19. They stay away from humans, but do they stay away from little animals too? I hear that many minks had to be killed, because they had a mutated version of COVID-19.
Fantastic Beasts 3 is shooting at Leavesden Studios. I hear they built part of Berlin and Rio de Janeiro.
Is building whole cities new?
MI7, on the other hand, is still shooting on location. They were in Norway, Rome, Venice. I guess everybody is so afraid of TC that they’d probably keep distance from their own shadows to not get COVID-19. You don't know where your shadow goes to when you can’t see it.
They stay away from humans, but do they stay away from little animals too? I hear that many minks had to be killed, because they had a mutated version of COVID-19.
Mutated version in humans in Siberia. Minks get sick and die, but rabbits, cats and other little animals seem to just carry it.
HC does like to wear his robe “casually open,” doesn’t he?
HBO Max gave Snyder a $70 million budget to realize his full vision of Justice League. Snyder’s cut of the movie will be four hours long and will be split up into four hour-long episodes.
HBOM is investing a lot in this old cut. Will it pay off? I’ll probably get HBOM for a month to watch this because HC’s in it. The month will probably be for free. So HBOM won’t get any money from me. I’m already paying NX and barely watch anything they have. I also like TW and Enola more than JL. So I’ll keep NX.
I guess everybody is so afraid of TC that they’d probably keep distance from their own shadows to not get COVID-19. You don't know where your shadow goes to when you can’t see it.
Zack Snyder's Justice League Is Bringing 2.5 Hours of Unseen Footage to HBO Max
While we know that the new cut of Justice League will provide fans with around 4 hours of superhero delight, it has remained unclear how much of that will be previously unseen footage...until now.
"Don't also forget that it is probably a solid two-and-a-half hours of unseen footage in this movie, I would imagine. Something like that! It's going to be fun for everyone to experience for the first time."
Along with recent reshoots that reportedly add around 5 minutes of brand-new scenes, The Snyder Cut will feature approximately 150 minutes' worth of unseen footage.
Over the last few months though, Snyder has revealed that The Snyder Cut will be making several substantial changes from what audiences saw in Whedon's Justice League. The movie is set to feature Joe Manganiello reprising the role of Deathstroke, the arrival of Ray Porter as the tyrannical cosmic overlord Darkseid, a lot more of Cyborg's tragic story, Harry Lennix revealing himself as Martian Manhunter, and even the return of Jared Leto as the Joker, who will have a new, "road-weary" look. The studio has put a lot of effort and capital in allowing Snyder to finally realise his vision, with reshoots reportedly costing somewhere in the region of $70 million.
The plan is to initially release the director's cut to HBO Max as a four-part miniseries, with each episode being an hour long. This will then be followed by a version that combines the episodes into a four-hour movie epic. The studio and director are planning to give us as many versions of The Snyder Cut as possible, with Snyder recently stating that he also plans to finish a monochrome version of the movie saying, "My ideal version of the movie is the black-and-white IMAX version of the movie. That to me is the most fan-centric, most pure, most Justice League experience."
Justice League Snyder Cut Image Shows Gal Gadot Posing With Batmobile
The latest Snyder Cut image comes courtesy of cinematographer Fabian Wagner. It features star Gal Gadot, who plays Diana Prince (aka Wonder Woman) in the DCEU, standing beside the famed Batmobile. The picture itself appears to be from a scene where Diana visits Bruce Wayne (Ben Affleck) in his Batcave, which was seen in the theatrical Justice League.However, it's likely the moment will play out differently in Snyder's version.
While the Snyder Cut has yet to receive an official release date, a new trailer will arrive in just a matter of days. Snyder confirmed an updated Justice League trailer will arrive on the three-year anniversary of the theatrical release, which is on November 17.
‘Justice League’: New Snyder Cut Photos Spotlight Gal Gadot & The Amazons
While Zack Snyder recently revealed how much new footagehe shot for Justice League, cinematographer Fabian Wagnertook to Instagram to reveal shots of the cast working on the film in 2016. Some of the images offer a better look at Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman as she investigates the history of Darkseid and his siege against the alliance of Men, Atlanteans, Amazons and Green Lanterns on Earth centuries ago.
The other four photos show Gal Gadot posing for the camera in a break between filming while others highlight the Amazons who protect the Motherbox from Steppenwolf. The images offer a good look at the incredibly detailed costumes worn by the stunt actors playing the formidable Amazons in the film as well as Gal Gadot in her Wonder Woman armor.
Zack Snyder Confirms Ben Affleck Suited Up For Justice League Reshoots
The director has already gathered together many of the original stars for reshoots and added several fresh faces including Jared Leto’s Joker and Joe Manganiello’s Deathstroke, and in a new interview, he confirmed that Ben Affleck had suited up again.
“I think he forgot how uncomfortable it is, but that’s fine. He was incredibly gracious… A couple of the costumes, you know, have been in archives for a while. They were all over the place, in museums and stuff and we had to tear them out of there. You kknow, I think one of the cowls was put on and just kind of like ripped in half.”
I have no intention of allowing Joss Whedon to use the old Hollywood tactic of “exiting”, “stepping down”, or “walking away” to cover for his terrible behavior.
WarnerMedia’s JL investigation has been in full swing for over 3 weeks now.
I can’t believe what I’m about to write, but I prefer the B&W trailer. I don’t like the awful color that ZS likes to use. I don’t understand why he does that crap. MOS didn’t have that awful color.
I have no intention of allowing Joss Whedon to use the old Hollywood tactic of “exiting”, “stepping down”, or “walking away” to cover for his terrible behavior.
WarnerMedia’s JL investigation has been in full swing for over 3 weeks now.
RF is against abuse, but he posted a pic of himself and EM, who can be seen choking a woman in a vid. Abuse seems to be relevant to him only if it happens to him (understandable) and to those who can help him bring down JW and the other idiots. Even if EM was a victim of those men, you can’t ignore what he was caught doing on cam.
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@Blue-Rose said:
Is RR sure that JM is really supporting him? lol His first post about this was June 29. JM’s support was posted Sept 14 and it was because WB used his name in the fake Frosty news. If RR is really your brother and you know about what happened, why did you wait 2.5 months to show support?
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on November 3, 2020 at 4:59 PM
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Good. I don’t like that song.
Maybe fake support is still support. I also think JM supported RR because of the Frosty crap.
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on November 4, 2020 at 5:42 AM
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Reply by Blue-Rose
on November 9, 2020 at 11:54 AM
It gets even weirder.
RR’s first post was June 29. Deadline broke the Frosty news July 1st. JM debunked the Frosty news Sept 14. And this part of his post is weird: ”…it's f*cked up that people released a fake Frosty announcement without my permission to try to distract from Ray Fisher speaking up…”
So it’s OK to release fake news with his permission?
It’s also weird that a fake news would have quotes of some of those involve.
Some say that JM was still in talks when Deadline broke the news as a done deal. Apparently, it fell through and that’s why JM debunked it so late.
Reply by Triksy
on November 11, 2020 at 6:07 AM
Mercury#GBTZ, Associate Producer of Zack Snyder’s Justice
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on November 16, 2020 at 6:22 PM
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Fantastic Beasts 3 is shooting at Leavesden Studios. I hear they built part of Berlin and Rio de Janeiro. MI7, on the other hand, is still shooting on location. They were in Norway, Rome, Venice. I guess everybody is so afraid of TC that they’d probably keep distance from their own shadows to not get COVID-19. You don't know where your shadow goes to when you can’t see it.
BTW, TW left the studio to shoot at some beautiful locations and suddenly a few crew members got COVID-19. They stay away from humans, but do they stay away from little animals too? I hear that many minks had to be killed, because they had a mutated version of COVID-19.
Reply by AnnaB
on November 18, 2020 at 2:24 AM
Old and new Cyborg pic.
JL B&W trailer
Is building whole cities new?
Mutated version in humans in Siberia. Minks get sick and die, but rabbits, cats and other little animals seem to just carry it.
Reply by Triksy
on November 18, 2020 at 6:29 AM
OFFICIAL Justice League Teaser Breakdown with Zack Snyder
Reply by Blue-Rose
on November 18, 2020 at 12:03 PM
HC does like to wear his robe “casually open,” doesn’t he?
HBOM is investing a lot in this old cut. Will it pay off? I’ll probably get HBOM for a month to watch this because HC’s in it. The month will probably be for free. So HBOM won’t get any money from me. I’m already paying NX and barely watch anything they have. I also like TW and Enola more than JL. So I’ll keep NX.
TC is some sort of film set Nazi.
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on November 20, 2020 at 6:06 AM
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on November 26, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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on November 26, 2020 at 6:01 PM
I can’t believe what I’m about to write, but I prefer the B&W trailer. I don’t like the awful color that ZS likes to use. I don’t understand why he does that crap. MOS didn’t have that awful color.
RF is against abuse, but he posted a pic of himself and EM, who can be seen choking a woman in a vid. Abuse seems to be relevant to him only if it happens to him (understandable) and to those who can help him bring down JW and the other idiots. Even if EM was a victim of those men, you can’t ignore what he was caught doing on cam.