LOL. But yeah, I don't think anyone is really denying its impact though. Even the haters know it had an impact. It's just that many people find it overrated, a completely different thing.

Well said, jacs. I'm sure the delusional stans will start calling it iconic next

@napsdufroid said:

Well said, jacs. I'm sure the delusional stans will start calling it iconic next

Well I would say Hold Up Video and the Yellow Dress is really the most recent iconic pop Girl moment. No one is going to give it credit though because of how recent it is.

@ComeToJose said:

@napsdufroid said:

Well said, jacs. I'm sure the delusional stans will start calling it iconic next

Well I would say Hold Up Video and the Yellow Dress is really the most recent iconic pop Girl moment. No one is going to give it credit though because of how recent it is.

The yellow dress and the bat are definitely recognizable and have been spoofed a lot last year, but we'll have to wait and see a few years before anyone will know if it stood the test of time, let alone became iconic.

@mrjacs said:

@ComeToJose said:

@napsdufroid said:

Well said, jacs. I'm sure the delusional stans will start calling it iconic next

Well I would say Hold Up Video and the Yellow Dress is really the most recent iconic pop Girl moment. No one is going to give it credit though because of how recent it is.

The yellow dress and the bat are definitely recognizable and have been spoofed a lot last year, but we'll have to wait and see a few years before anyone will know if it stood the test of time, let alone became iconic.

If it's still remembered and referenced after 20 years, it's entering into iconic territory

@ComeToJose said:

@napsdufroid said:

Well said, jacs. I'm sure the delusional stans will start calling it iconic next

Well I would say Hold Up Video and the Yellow Dress is really the most recent iconic pop Girl moment. No one is going to give it credit though because of how recent it is.

"because of how recent it is" And that's' exactly why it isn't anywhere on the same planet as iconic

@napsdufroid said: If it's still remembered and referenced after 20 years, it's entering into iconic territory

I would actually say 10 years. Michael Jackson's Moonwalk performance was already heavily referenced in 1992 and it's considered iconic today. Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit and its video was still parodied and referenced in 2002, and it's iconic today. Madonna's Vogue was still remembered and referenced in 2000-01 and it's iconic today. Same with Metallica's black album, Spice Girls' Wannabe, PRINCE's Purple Rain, Back to the Future and Titanic. All were still remembered a decade later and are considered iconic today.

If something's a fad, it'll be forgotten 10 years later. While I do agree 20 years time is perfect for icon status, most of those you already felt would be iconic a decade after they initially "premiered."